Thursday, September 10, 2015

Matthew Ryan (1857 - 1953)

Matthew Ryan is my Great-Grandfather and has been a difficult subject. He is why I first got into genealogy. I was visiting family in Ireland some 30 years ago and visited a graveyard in Nenagh and found many Ryan's and no one knew which ones were "ours". After finding it very difficult to navigate local resources and trying to extract useful information from background noise, I switched gears and since then have focused mainly on my American ancestors. Below is the scarce information that I have been able to collect on the Ryan's thus far.

1. John RYAN m. 21 Feb 1841 in Killaloe Co. Clare while living in Glenymullone, Co. Clare d. 1892 Cloneybrien

  + Anne HARTNEDY (HERTNEDY and HARTNETT) from Ballycurragan, Co. Clare, d. 1896 Cloneybrien
    2. Matthew RYAN bapt. 05 Apr 1857, Cloneybrien, Tipperary, Ireland d. 1953
      + Mary Anne MCCORMACK b. 3 Jul 1868 of Garrybeg(Curragh), m. 27 Feb 1886 in Portroe Parish d. 1947
        3. Annie (Anne) RYAN, b. 30 Nov 1886, Cloneybrien d. Cloneybrien
          + RYAN
             4. Mary RYAN
               + O'DWYER
             4. Matthew RYAN
             4. Sean RYAN
             4. Christopher RYAN
        3. John RYAN, b. 07 Apr 1888, Cloneybrien d. young, Cloneybrien
        3. Michael (Mike) J RYAN, b. 06 Jul 1889, Cloneybrien d. USA
          + Elizabeth (Lizzie)
            4. Living Male RYAN
            4. Living Male RYAN
            4. Living Male RYAN
            4. Living Female RYAN
            4. Living Female RYAN
            4. Living Female RYAN
            4. Living Female RYAN            
        3. Daniel RYAN, b. 25 July 1891, Cloneybrien d. young in Slate Quarry, Cloneybrien
        3. Patrick RYAN, b. 06 July 1893, Cloneybrien d. USA
        3. Denis Christopher RYAN, b. 17 Dec 1894, Cloneybrien d. 26 Aug 1991, Burbank California
          + Dorothy Francis DENNERLIEN b. 7 Nov 1906 m. 17 Jun 1932 d. 14 Feb 1988, Los Angeles California
            4. Denis  Christopher RYAN, b. 03 Apr 1935, New York d. 4 Aug 2014, Stella NC 
            4. Living Male RYAN
            4. Living Male RYAN
            4. Living Female RYAN
            4. Living Female RYAN
        3. Margaret (Peggy) RYAN, b. 15 Mar 1897, Cloneybrien d. USA
          + O'CONNOR 
        3. Mary RYAN, b. 24 Aug 1899, Cloneybrien d. young, Cloneybrien
        3. Norah RYAN, b. 24 Aug 1899, Cloneybrien d. young, Cloneybrien
        3. Mary (May) RYAN, b. 22 Dec 1900, Cloneybrien d. abt 1988, Cloneybrien
          + William MENOGUE 
        3. Matthew Joseph RYAN, b. 25 Apr 1903, Cloneybrien d. abt 1968, Cloneybrien
          + ???
            4. Mary RYAN
        3. Martin RYAN, b. 01 Jul 1905, Cloneybrien d. 9 Feb 1971 Brooklyn NY
          + Teresa O'BRIEN b. Tipperary
            4. Matthew Lancelot RYAN, b. 1947 d. 11 Sep 2001, New York
            4. Living Male RYAN 
            4. Living Male RYAN 
        3. Sarah RYAN, b. 03 Jan 1908, Cloneybrien
          + Tom SEXTON
     2. Margaret RYAN, b, 31 May 1859, Cloneybrien d. aft 1930, New Britain, Connecticut
      + Patrick KEOUGH
        3. Mary KEOUGH, b. 11 Nov 1885, New Britain, Connecticut, d. 26 Feb 1889, New Britain, Connecticut
        3. Michael Joseph KEOUGH, b. 18 Feb 1888 , New Britain, Connecticut, d. 19 Jul 1977, Wallingford, Connecticut
          + Margaret D., 
            4. Living Male KEOUGH (assumed)
        3. Francis Patrick KEOUGH (Bishop), b. 30 Dec 1890, New Britain, Conn., d. 6 Dec 1961, Georgetown, Maryland

Matthew Ryan lived in Cloneybrien his whole life. Born in 1857 there and dying in 1953 at 96 y.o. First occupied as an "Engine Driver" (until 29 y.o.) then as a farmer. 


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Sources:

1. Griffiths Valuation (1848-1864)
2. 1901 Census of Ireland
3. 1911 Census of Ireland
4. General Vital Records from RootsIreland.ie
     1857 Matthew Ryan Baptism
     1868 Mary McCormack Birth
     1886 Matthew Ryan and Mary McCormack Marriage
     1886 Anne Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1888 John Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1889 Michael Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1891 Daniel Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1893 Patrick Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1895 Denis Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1897 Margaret Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1899 Mary Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1899 Norah Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1900 Mary Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1903 Matthew Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1905 Martin Ryan Birth and Baptism
     1907 Sarah Ryan Birth and Baptism
5. 1930 US Federal Census - Holyoke Mass - Michael Ryan and Family
6. 1940 US Federal Census - Bronx NY - Denis Ryan and Family
7. Find-A-Grave: Martin Ryan; Teresa O'Brian

Notes:

1. The only supporting evidence for the Baptism Record with the presumed Parents is that the date is close and it is the only Matthew Ryan born to a John Ryan in Cloneybrien in that timeframe)
2. No middle names used in the documents.
3. One mystery is the Mary-Norah-Mary situation. The 2 Mary's have birth documents and Norah just has a Baptism document. The first Mary and Norah are either twins or the same person, perhaps with the full name "Mary Norah Ryan" or something similar. Then did this child die and they named the next girl born 13 months later Mary as well?


Verbal History (interviews with family from 1983-today):
1. My G-Grandfather's name was Matthew Ryan
2. My G-Grandmother's name was Mary McCormick (now believed to be McCormack)
3. They had 12 children including my Grandfather Denis, Martin, Ann, Matthew, John, and Michael.
4. Many of the male children were killed in Quarry accidents (Actually one, Daniel Ryan - other Ryan and McCormack cousins also died)
5. Matthew Ryan Sr.'s fathers name was thought to be John Ryan
6. The family is from Cloneybrien, Tipperary but has scattered to Nenagh, Killaloe and the US.
7. Annie, Mary and Matthew stayed in Ireland
8. Michael, Margaret, Patrick, Denis and Martin came to the US. In that order.

2 comments:

  1. Hi Sean - I've done a bit of research myself on my family tree and have noted same regarding two children with the same name. Unfortunately mortality rates were high and they often did give another child the same name.

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  2. Another possibility for the child with two names is this. The parish register is a copy made from a deteriorating old document by a parish priest in the 1920s. Judging from the records of my family, he had trouble reading the original document, so he did make mistakes. Also, at one point, a parish priest spelled all the surnames in Irish, not English. For example, my great-grandmother Mary Conroy's surname is spelled Conndra. If I had not known whom I was looking for, I would never have found her. One of her siblings, Michael, is listed as Mulconry, but his parents'first names are correct (John and Sally) and the location in the townland of Coum is also correct, as is the date of Michael's baptism. The records have big gaps in them as well. In short, the Portroe parish are unusually difficult to work with. (Joann Hinz)

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